Oh Remember when we were at the splash party in Colorado? Shananns brother cared about everybody, saying he thought he had a brother, but Chriss mother cared more about making excuses for him than what he did, Shananns brother Frankie was charged with child abuse in 2015 or 2016. He killed his family to very simply be free for his lover. Zoom in on his eyes. From CWs perspective, when SWs *parents* came and stayed in their home *for over a year*, that was more evidence that SWs parents/side of the family would be a major part of their lives, while his own family, whom he was very close to, would not. CHRIS WATTS / Is This His Sister Jamie Lynn Williams AKA 'Trinket78' 4,581 views Jun 16, 2019 60 Dislike Share Save ParadiseMedia 4.72K subscribers CHRIS WATTS / Is This His Sister Jamie. Another added, I wish the sister would talk, maybe she can give some insight as to why her brother is a lunatic and as to why he wouldnt just divorce her, screw his tramp on the side and move on., Watts and his then-coworker, Nichol Kessinger, began having an affair in June 2018, two months before the slayings. Cindy replied: No, I cant lose you. We support you 100%. Chris Watts 'rebellious' sister Jamie drops 'Watts - YouTube irrational buy-in to such an inevitable financial disaster. As we now know, it took the Watts parents all of two seconds to give Chris a pass for killing Shannan. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. If you nodded your head while saying no is also a lie. Perhaps they also didnt think that it was that serious? Does the "we" refer to Ronnie and Jamie Williams [Chris Watts' sister] as well? Isnt it a shame we have to actually defend 2 little girls and their pregnant mommy, after their daddy put them unconscious (no reason to believe they were dead since he didnt kill them the first time) and drowned them in crude oil? I wish I could ask you more, Cindy murmured. , he was always a lunatic, he just mimicked others very well. It is mandatory to procure user consent prior to running these cookies on your website. It probably helped that her murder occurred shortly after a big blow up between Shannan and his parents. Powered by BlueHost . Its always about control with these women. That only happens when youre not serious about the wedding. Chris Watts's prison girlfriend is Anna Nowak, who currently lives in Wisconsin, where Chris Watts is serving his sentence. So sad. I think ,Chris killed his daughters because one of them saw their dead mother rolled up in their sheets. Didnt attend what? Privacy Policy. I would never go by myself with my children to visit such a vicious woman like Cindi. This subreddit is to discuss facts, speculation, and evidence. Its just the beginning of something else Chris, but your story doesnt end here. I also do not think it is uncommon for a person to choose a spouse who mirrors the opposite of their personality. They cut her off. Chris Watts Family Tapes- Exclusive By Your Content- Is This - YouTube Throughout all my reading of the case Ive never seen much about his sister Jamie (who I believe was Jamie Watts Williams according to SWs fb). THANK YOU. i havent seen anyone bring her up or the fact that she even works at a hospital, or even as suspect for nicos murder but she def is in my book. So rehash all the old disputes and wounds, nothing stands but his murderous actions. She was, she was you and I know its so hard for you. Those invested in the case have wondered why she has yet to speak out. There is right, and there is wrong. The families involved have interesting, if not dysfunctional, dynamics going on. They jabbered on and on and on AND THE WHOLE THING WAS CAUSED BY THEIR GOOD-FOR-NOTHING SON!!!! jamie williams (chris's sister) : r/Chriswatts - Reddit Exclusive Prison Visit with the Colorado Killer Chris Watts and His Nuts are no longer an issue anyway. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Her reaction I think was justified in that her daughter could have died, but then she told Chris that he wasnt ALLOWED to talk to his family. you can see that just in the text messages in the documentary. ago. I think you might be spot on. And for those who say, Cindy Watts was a witch! I have removed the annoying background noise from this interview because many people couldn't understand what Watts was saying.On February 18, 2019, three ag. Firstly, in the Casey Anthony case, Caylee died the day after Fathers Day. We won't post to any of your accounts without asking first. One of the primary activities at a wedding is to enable the two sides of the family to meet and get to know each other. Shanann just exaggerated the shit out of it, like all their health issuesherself included. So Cindy Watts didnt attend her sons wedding. John List is the best known example of this, but there are many others. (With regard to CHRIS' background and upbringing.) We just love you. Archived post. In March 2021, it was revealed that the pair were still in contact while he serves five life sentences at the Dodge Correctional Institution in Waupun, Wisconsin. Chris Watts with his Sister Wife, Children & Relationships Chris met Shanann Watts in 2010; she was an independent representative for a multilevel marketing company called 'Le-vel,' which is focused on selling the wellness product called 'Thrive.' Shannan freaked out because Cindy had ice cream in the house. This is because Chris Watts is a psychopath, a monster and a narcissist nothing more. Other than wanting to see a trial, its difficult to see him other than as a very tarnished and very pathetic character. Nothing special. How could she be so without human empathy that Chris Wattss mother says its okay if he killed Shannan? When something needs to be done, *someone* needs to do it. Chris and Nikkis affair started at the end of June, lasted through July and into August until Chris murdered his family. Both these families, had multiple discord amongst them all. The scenario where Chris saw ShanAnn killing the girls wasnt Chris own idea originally. As far as I have read, this video is from when he was in the Colorado prison. he met Nicky Kessinger and wanted a fresh new start, and to an empty vessel of a soul narcissist, that meant eliminating his family, not divorcing his wife, but eliminating her. Youre right, many comparisons to be made. Why put the nuts out knowing it could set Shannan off? That is a losing battle. THEY WERE ALL INVITED. No, none of us are. No way his mother would have said that crap. Granted, she didnt have to plaster it on Facebook, but thats what people do nowadays. Anyone who left a child with the Watts family were completely ignorant of how truly dangerous it was. WATTS [Licks lips]: Im so happy that theyre here. I grew up in upper middle class. And the parents learn to compromise for the sake of their children. Cadle, Anna, Kathleen, Jamie's old girlfriends. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. So she travels to give them medicine or treatment. Nonetheless why risk it? We use cookies on our website to give you the most relevant experience by remembering your preferences and repeat visits. There are no sides in this tragedy. Jamies husband has worked hard getting his job. I feel so terrible for the family of Shannon and the children. Cindy Watts mouth turns upside down when she speaks of Shannan in videos. It falls apart even further when you consider he didnt only kill Shanann, but terminated the pregnancy and also killed his own children. CW's sister Jamie : r/Chriswatts - Reddit Watts Family Tapes The Event - Crime Chicken Fried - Facebook That also echoes what Chris Watts said on the porch when a reporter mentioned a search dog going into the house, and the sidewalk crawling with cops and police cruisers. After after she is brutally murdered along with her children, her husbands family is waging a smear campaign against her and trying to salvage their own public image. Chris had CeeCee on his shoulders and Shanaan was walking next to them. A whole family of narcissists. Shanann just stepped in his moms shoes and his mom, like any toxic mother-in-law, was threatened, and didnt go to their wedding. According to sources in the know his sister and mother are behind this awful Facebook page and people from it send horrible stuff to shananns parents and police are aware and are investigating. Scan this QR code to download the app now, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-chp2Xo5Xo. Ive written a trilogy of books about the Peterson case, and a trilogy on the Watts case, so the similarities are all too clear. I had a mother in law like her. If all this has been brewing since the time of their wedding and even before then, you have to wonder whether the move to Colorado was a way to get away from it all. The text messages where she almost expects Chris to be reading her mindoverall there are just a lot of red flags that tell me she was likely a very toxic partner. But he was afaird to speak up..why Shanann Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW. I dont care if this man is her son. Thank you for putting my thoughts into words (so eloquently). For more information, please see our This category only includes cookies that ensures basic functionalities and security features of the website. Those invested in the case have wondered why she has yet to speak out. While Chris parents have been vocal about their son, his sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, remains silent. WHY???? Not the other way around. Its one thing to say you will do something and then change your mind. Chris, I forgive you, and your sister forgives you and we will never abandon you.. Part 4 Chris Watts: Loving Guy Who Snapped Or Covert Narcissist? I wouldnt. Its simply an act of madness. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. Do you remember Neil Entwistle who tried to say his wife killed their child before herself? Well that maybe true according to Cindy however please explain the 80 bridal invitations that never got mailed in the attempts to embarrass Shanann with no one showing up. It wouldnt surprise me if Cindy Watts talked to Chris after the nut explosion and said Look, I am so sick of Shanann and those girls, if you dont divorce her or just get rid of her then I will tell her about your affair. My question to Cindy Watts is who the hell would and could get along with you? He is where he belongs and will die there. After Chris admitted to the murders, Ronnie and Cindy each gave statements to the court. I dont think a trial is the only way of getting to those skeletons, though. As to whether people attend weddings when one of their children is thrown out of the wedding, I dont know thats a personal choice, but it would be a hard one. This non buying of nut free food really upset Shanann. Dont ever babysitok? For those who believe Shanann killed her kids, would it have been for one or more of the same reasons I listed for Chris? Every time he sees a wedding photo, he remembers it wasnt quite the perfect day the photos suggested it was. It doesnt end here. Shannan seemed to be a great mom, was beautiful, kept a beautiful house, worked hard, and loved her son. But I think shes was the Root of all Evil. This was supposed to be a beautiful time in Shannans and Chris life. Archived post. CW looks miserable on his wedding day whilst she looks elated she has her whole family there after all. Id fightbut then you ask yourself, Would a normal person putdispose of the bodies the way that he did? It scares me to death [speaking softly, nodding] that he could have done all of this. Chris Watts stares down wife's friend after he returns home to find Recently, new documents showed that Nowak visited Watts over 30 times . He was always the quiet kid who followed the rules. Ashley's main point is that Chris Watts was a seething, passive-aggressive narcissist. SW couldnt be responsible for doing *everything* to make a friendly relationship happen!, yes, she could. For my part, Im interested in knowing more about the family dynamics, and the characters involved. But she disregarded the allergies. Nathan Trinastich said he was acting strange on surveillance footage in Oxygens documentary Criminal Confessions. CW had tended to side with Shanann against his mother until not long before the horrendous murders. I just want him to fight. I had a wonderful mother in law and I take from her how to treat a daughter in law. Proof is in the planning, deliberate smothering of his 2 little girls TWICE, and murder of tgeir mother and baby Nico.all planned weeks in advance. You are right Nan, Shanan should not have gone on Facebook to vent about her mother in law and the dangerous nuts incident. o His father worked as a Parts Manager for a Ford dealership. These men are what is know as Family Annihilators. They were heavy drinkers. Then to as far as I am aware, there was a baby shower, that Cindy and Jamie had for Shanann, I,ve seen pictures of it. We dont have to like or even try to get with *in-laws*.there could be many reasons behindWhy. You were, you were, she was just, she was you, Cindy cried. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Id fight. Killing his own child insideI think its the opposite. Watts confessed to brutally murdering his pregnant wife Shanann, 34, and children Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. On that day Shanann posted a picture of her own mother for Mothers Day, gave credit to her husband for getting her the perfect Mothers Day gift, and also posted a cartoon dedicated to all the important women in her life but nothing on Cindy Watts. Shanann also posted a picture of Ronnie Watts on Fathers Day and paid tribute to her husband for being a great dad. Archived post. This suggests Mothers Day and Fathers Day in 2018, in the Watts home, were hugely significant milestones, particularly with a third baby on the way. I believe that is where he got the idea of blaming Shannan. He is a narcisstic twit and wanted a new life with the GF. Thats what they all do play victim. Its so difficult for me to fathom not getting along your, Ill just call it same-sex in-law because it happens in both cases. I do think it was horrible that they didnt go to the wedding. I see a lot of people saying there are two camps in response to this and there really arent. (His defense attorney) shut me down. Wow.boga.you must strictly be on shananns side. You were made for something else. You are the first person who has suggested this. And he knows he is being recorded. What if he married Shanann because, in some strange way, she reminded him of his mom? Such a terribly sad case. Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. Talking about his family, Chris's parents are his mother Cindy Watts, and his father Ronnie Watts. And they can record all they want.. Your comment fully reveals how humans can distort and exaggerate most of what they hear. Chris Watts Prison Interview High Quality Audio (Removed A/C Noise) With your comment where you know . Agreed. It was related to the small child of a girlfriend. So an attack of Shanann [any attack] feels like an attack of who they are, and their belief systems. Shanann should have wiped this woman from her life, says a lot about her character that she still had a single thing to do with this woman. Nick, they didnt attend the wedding because Shann,Ann fired Jamie and her children from the wedding a week earlier because Jamie couldnt get off work to attend the bridesmaids hair and nail events. What if just *one* of them would have decided to be a bigger person and make nice for the sake of Chris, whom they both loved? Jump to Sections of this page Surely that will be dealt with harshly at a later date. I dont want him to take this plea deal. Ironic it wasnt shanann who destroyed her son, this mistress is more involved than she tried to say, it was more her that helped destroy Chriss life, she didnt do it but telling him immediately to pawn her rings? They already proved that chick to be a fake. In 2019, Chris neighbor spoke out about what he saw the night Chris allegedly murdered his family. Hate to say it but Shanann emasculated him verbally a lot. Read shanann watts mothers statement in discovery about other incidents. *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-chp2Xo5Xo. Do your research. Think of Ahab and Jezebel from the Bible. I knew there had to be a wife vs mother prize fight going on after reading Shananns reaction to the nut incident with Chriss mother. This nightmare has to be over for everybody.. Agree with all of the above. CHRIS WATTS / Is This His Sister Jamie Lynn Williams AKA - YouTube Its that simple. I think Chris became Chris by way of his mother. Love your take. Likewise, Chris has a sister named Jamie Lyn Williams. His father Clifford Entwistle has just written a book saying hes innocent, they watched the movie Shutter Island the first night they had sex. Perhaps he was trying to save his daughters from the madness he knew he had for a long time. Did anyone else watch that video of sister Jamie having a - Reddit It was hard on his father when he CHRIS left because his father was used to him CHRIS always being around. Exclusive Visit with the Colorado Killer Chris Watts and His Last 3 Living Relatives.The exclusive also showcases Watts' sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, who managed to remain the most secretive and silent figure in the saga.The Watts Family Tapes is slated to debut on Your Content via Facebook Live Fri. Oct. 23.https://www.yc.news/2020/10/03/exclusive-prison-visit-with-the-colorado-killer-chris-watts-and-his-last-3-living-relatives-to-debut-oct-23/https://fb.me/e/1xvjL7nbyThis video is for educational purposes:Chris Watts Mothers Book Parts 1-6https://youtu.be/pFXjLuNvWXkDon't forget to Subscribe:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5c1crGPtnf3ZJ5TKWl918QSubscribe to my new vlog channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHOYcyT3bHfeEh4n65C1TYQ/ No one would attend if one of their kids got thrown out of the wedding. Look no further than his parents, especially his gum chewing, cold mother, to learn what made him a heartless, narcissistic, arrogant psychopath. Chris Watts' Family: His Mom and Dad Don't Think He's Guilty CHILLING footage shows the moment triple-murderer Chris Watts stops to buy breakfast on the morning he disposed of the bodies of his wife and children. Sign up to receive our biggest stories as soon as theyre published. I call him Pennywise, make of that mom de guerre what you will. Im not attempting to conflate the two choices, just the fact of the toll it took on them. Send it to us! Kathleen I can see responsibility on both sides the mother to be mature and wise enough to accept the sons choice of wife, and the new wife working to accept her husbands family but in this case, ShanAnns the one who ended up paying the price. Ditto, Nan. Watch out! I think they were allowed video calls, though. Cindi is truly an evil psychotic person. Cindy Watts was in a power game that she couldnt win. A child can die from eating even the tiniest piece of nut. Cindy Watts interview with WCNC.com feels genuine, especially this part of the transcript. o JAMIE is seven (7) years older than him. Why not believe the physician that prescribed the epi pen? We are different, but I love her dearly and if my son loves her Im also in her corner then. Not sure the outcome. The Rzucek family are weird as well. And you will., It is [hard], killer Chris Watts replied. I bet so was Chris mom. Chris Watts speaks to his sister Jamie from Prison - YouTube I think the doctor told her it was a slight nut allergy not carry an epipen/anaphylactic shock type nut allergy. Right now doing everything they can, it-it just scares the living crap out of me knowing its come to this. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. In 2019, Watts told author Cherlyn Cadle, who penned her explosive book Letters from Christopher, If I had not met Nikki, I would never have killed my family., The Colorado native allegedly tried to cause Shanann to miscarry their son Nico, giving her the powerful painkiller Oxycodone, after Nichol told Watts she wanted to give him his first son.. Maybe one day?. Divorce would have left them all with new lives. Archived post. 2022 Circle of Friends Donors . He is a prison success story and she risked that reputation. My thoughts are just that its a pretty big deal not to go to a wedding so it would be interesting to get all the facts. He never expected to be seriously challenged because everyone liked him and Mommy thought he was perfect. If its true that the sister deliberately didnt mail out the invitations then shame on her as that is just wrong. After he was moved to the Wisconsin prison, they were on his visitor's list but with the Covid lockdown and the distance, I doubt there were many in-person visits. I could almost hear Cindy Watts yelling and pressuring her husband to do so. Though I have no idea how he can sleep at night definitely didnt end up with the mistress being in jail and all. Over time her actions ,her treatment of him, his parents. Or if youre a woman, you have submitted that youre trash as a woman, from being subjected to those men who spend their time making youtube videos saying they dont want women, but instead of leaving women alone, they spend their time trying to make women feel bad, The WATTS family that were inlaws to Shanann, all THREE of them, give all in laws a bad name. and our I continue to be intrigued with the Lev-el MLM and their (or perhaps Shananns?) I like your take on this. If you are familiar with this movie then you know the main character kills his wife after she kills their children. If Chris Watts had simmering resentments, then the enmity between his wife and his mother could only have turned on the heat even further. 11 mo. Oct 31 2015. Estranged from the family? He just saw JAMIE and her family during his recent visit to North Carolina. Were all just people. This really upset Bella and she went crying to the v reliable and intelligent babysitter about it. By boycotting the wedding, CWs family not only rejected ShanAnn herself, but they rejected her entire family as well. Granted I was only 15 when I married but I was married 20 years but we still had a great relationship until she passed, and I have 1 daughter-in-law and its the same way. That was not an excuse to kill her by any means but she was fairly toxic herself. There was a stolen set of manuscript notes which are not a book, but interview notes. Save his life and life in prison to me, theres no difference. If you are familiar with this movie then you know the main character kills his wife after she kills their children., I believe that is where he got the idea of blaming Shannan.. 34-year-old Chris Watts pleaded guilty to first-degree murder and other charges in the killings of his wife, Shanann, 34, and their children Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, before crudely disposing of them at a isolated site where he worked. Was it because they were an extension of Shanann? That had nothing to do with it. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. His father worked as a Parts Manager for a Ford dealership. We have a great relationship because of that. You, me, Ronnie, Jamie, all of us will get through this together, because we love you so much, Cindy Watts whimpered. A mother not attending her sons wedding is HUGE. They dont usually kill their spouse if they want to move on, nor do they normally kill a spouse they like. Cindy Watts probably pressured her not to partake. If you look at her while she is saying that here head is moving side to side, that usually indicates that someone is lying. She made Chris into what he is today, a monster. 20K views, 82 likes, 21 loves, 980 comments, 173 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Your Content: Featuring Colorado Killer Chris Watts, His Parents Cindy & Ronnie Watts and Sister, Jamie Lyn. They say its victim blaming, but a lot of the people who say that are also current or former MLMs and they identify very directly with her. Chris Watts was clearly seen by his folks to be a perfect member of society, loved and liked by all [just like Scott Peterson]. Mum killed alongside two kids has final moments revealed in evil Now we know why. They lived in different States and only had to put up with each other for a little while. Maybe they are a bunch of people with personality disorders, but even people with personality disorders have their reasons to do bad stuff and even justify every bad stuff they do. God bless those poor victims.
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